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bigdog
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I shot the King Kong 2 bore today!
      #131526 - 05/04/09 04:31 PM

I was able to get out and shoot the King Kong 36" barrelled 2 bore today. We had a beautiful afternoon to go shooting. We used Pioneer FFG as the powder, which shoots about 15% hotter than black powder. I started with an equivalent black powder load of 225 grains and we worked up to a pretty stout load of 425 grain blk. pdr. equiv. load. According to my calculations, the max load we used pushed a 3500 grain ball to 1170 ft/sec for about 10600 ft.lbs of energy. The recoil was appx. 330 ft.lbs at 31 ft/sec. It kicked pretty hard. My chronograph crapped out before we were finished, but with past load data and our load progression today, we arrived at the above figures. I have some pictures posted on accurate .reloading.com under big bores, and have 4 short videos of us shooting the gun. I am currently having trouble getting the videos loaded to where they can be easily read on the computer. I am getting help tomorrow morning. If I can get it all together, can I email all the pictures and the 4 videos to someone to post here? Let me know if you can help out. thanks

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Re: I shot the King Kong 2 bore today! [Re: bigdog]
      #131540 - 05/04/09 09:33 PM

Im looking forward seeing some videos of this beast beeing fired.

425gr that must be in the range of a soda can full of BP.

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Re: I shot the King Kong 2 bore today! [Re: 450_366]
      #131559 - 06/04/09 01:16 AM

330 pounds of recoil- oh my ! too much for me. More power to you, Bigdog. 15 1/2 drams! - that ought to be a good concrete block killer.

Send 'em to me, Bigdog - I'm in here every day, sometimes 2 or 3 times, depending on the weather - I'll get them posted for you.

dtsapergia@shaw.ca

Daryl

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Re: I shot the King Kong 2 bore today! [Re: DarylS]
      #131564 - 06/04/09 02:13 AM

EGAD!
You actually fired it?
And lived to tell the story? It didn't kick you into last year?

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Re: I shot the King Kong 2 bore today! [Re: szihn]
      #131571 - 06/04/09 06:42 AM

bigdog

you amase me, 2 bore damn, better you than me, but i admire your shooting tolerance.

best

peter

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bigdog
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Re: I shot the King Kong 2 bore today! [Re: peter]
      #131588 - 06/04/09 10:53 AM

Daryl S. did you get any of the pics and videos I sent you. My e mail sent back notification that my messages were undeliverable to that address. Please double check the address you sent me. I sent a P.M. thanks

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bigdog
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Re: I shot the King Kong 2 bore today! [Re: szihn]
      #131594 - 06/04/09 11:46 AM

szihn,
The full loads kicked more than any other gun I have fired. Including the 4 bore and the 700 nitro, and the 700 AHR, and the 600 OK. The 600 OK and the 700 AHR do both have great brakes on them. But I am still here and doing fine. Not even a bruise on the shoulder! I was so stoked after shooting it yesterday. I get a lot of satisfaction out of taking out a new gun for the very first time. You just have that hesitant feeling when you are firing a big one off for the first time. You are not quite sure if it is going to kick you butt or not. Makes your heart beat a little bit faster!

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Re: I shot the King Kong 2 bore today! [Re: bigdog]
      #131617 - 06/04/09 02:02 PM











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Re: I shot the King Kong 2 bore today! [Re: tinker]
      #131618 - 06/04/09 02:21 PM

Tinker,thanks for posting the pics, Daryl is going to try to put the videos on tomorrow for me. I finally got them sent to him tonight. The flatter ball was cut out of a tree right at 10" deep. The shell between the 2 balls is a 9mm for size comparison. While the 4 big holes are far apart, we had several targets in that area through the day. It is pretty easy to see the 2 bore holes! A couple of guys flinched a few times but overall it was a fun afternoon of shooting. We shot a lot of smaller caliber handguns too.

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Re: I shot the King Kong 2 bore today! [Re: bigdog]
      #131655 - 07/04/09 12:13 AM

Here are the videos. That's one rifle I have absolutely no desire to shoot - to hold and admire, yes - to shoot, not on your life. Even a 4 bore is to much for this old broken guy. 30 rounds from my .375 last Saturday was enough - but a LOT easier than 1 round from Big Dog's hand-held cannon. About 40 pounds of recoil compared to 300+ - OUCH!





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Re: I shot the King Kong 2 bore today! [Re: DarylS]
      #131849 - 09/04/09 04:26 AM

Bigdog- I posted some pictures of this over on www.americanlongrifles.com in the shooting threads - hope you don't mind.

I am assuming the slightly flattened balls were recovered from the dirt of the backstop.

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Re: I shot the King Kong 2 bore today! [Re: DarylS]
      #131853 - 09/04/09 04:51 AM

Bigdog,
You are a brave man. The videos are awesome. Thanks for posting the pics and videos.

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bigdog
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Re: I shot the King Kong 2 bore today! [Re: tarawa]
      #131880 - 09/04/09 09:09 AM

Daryl, no problem on the posts to another sight. The flattened ball was cut out of a tree trunk. It was 10" deep in the trunk

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Re: I shot the King Kong 2 bore today! [Re: bigdog]
      #131932 - 10/04/09 12:24 AM

tks, bigdog. One guy noted, he watched the video I posted - and developed a flinch!

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bigdog
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Re: I shot the King Kong 2 bore today! [Re: DarylS]
      #131940 - 10/04/09 03:15 AM

Ha!! You get used to it. But as they say, its amazing what you can get used too. The 2 bore is doable without bodily damage. I think everyone should call Steve and get one ordered!! They take a while to build.

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Re: I shot the King Kong 2 bore today! [Re: peter]
      #131999 - 11/04/09 12:12 AM

I dont understand the bad opinion about a cartridge like the 460WM, a cartridge for hunting and not a toy's for big boy's!

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Re: I shot the King Kong 2 bore today! [Re: grandveneur]
      #132012 - 11/04/09 02:49 AM

Quote:

I dont understand the bad opinion about a cartridge like the 460WM, a cartridge for hunting and not a toy's for big boy's!



that really stings you, just be happy about your choice, just as big dog is happy about his.

peter

p.s. a 2 bore is by no means a toy

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Re: I shot the King Kong 2 bore today! [Re: peter]
      #132022 - 11/04/09 05:47 AM

Grandvenure,
I think the 460 Weatherby gets a bad rap because some people had trouble with the cartridge sticking on ejection during really hot weather in Africa. The 460 is now factory loaded at 100 ft/sec lower than it used to be. It is now at 2600 ft/sec.With a 500 grain bullet, still all you need by a long shot. I have a 460 Weatherby and like it a lot. Go with what you like and be happy with it. We all have different opinions on the guns and cartridges we like the best. My problem is I like them all!! Some novices buy a 460, most powerful you know, and have no idea how to shoot it and control it. Beginners think if they have a Weatherby, they know everything. It kind of turns some hunters off. I am not talking about all new commers, just a few that act like know it alls.

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Re: I shot the King Kong 2 bore today! [Re: bigdog]
      #132049 - 11/04/09 08:28 PM


Big Dog !

Your "doomsdaythunderstick" makes everthing looks like flyswatters...
This gun of yours ought to be a part of the US stardefencecounterlauchmissilspaceprogram....

Thanks for sharing vids & Pics. Great story from a great man about a great bore..

Happy Easter j

Ps: If you do see King Kong...give him a chance

Edited by rigbymauser (11/04/09 08:35 PM)

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Re: I shot the King Kong 2 bore today! [Re: rigbymauser]
      #132052 - 11/04/09 10:11 PM

I see subtlety has no bounds here.

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Re: I shot the King Kong 2 bore today! [Re: kamilaroi]
      #132092 - 12/04/09 05:24 AM

Meaning what???

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