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TH44
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French O/U rifle
      #278545 - 28/02/16 11:11 AM

Hi Guys - I bought this last weekend and thought it might interest some

14 bore rifle, 24" barrels, made by Castinne Renette, "Arquebusier to Kings/Emperors", specifically Napoleon III, in the 1850s, the equivalent of Purdey's etc in England??









Nice "Wire Twist" best quality for the time. Bayonet/sword/pigsticker bar? apparently common on continental rifles?



Stock is nice, since oiled!





Refurbished, a little too much for the engraving

Good quality locks



Maker, plus 2 sights 100 + 200/ Metres?



Bores NEED A CLEAN!, 1 turn in 48 ish, Round Ball or Minie? - Daryl?

I assume it would be for driven game boar/deer/bear???

Comments please - Kuduae/Lancaster - anyone

TH44

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Re: French O/U rifle [Re: TH44]
      #278553 - 28/02/16 01:40 PM

An old timer,what a shame we dont know its tally.
I found this online.

GASTINNE RENETTE
Previous manufacturer and retailer 1812-2003, and located in Paris, France.
On Jan. 1, 2003, Gastinne Renette closed its doors at its famous location on Franklin D. Roosevelt Avenue in Paris. Gastinne Renette had limited U.S. importation and distribution, and most guns were subcontracted to other European manufacturers.

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Re: French O/U rifle [Re: gryphon]
      #278561 - 28/02/16 03:47 PM

That's a nice hunting rifle, bravo!!

Many of the gun makers of that period made fast rates of twist, some even as fast as 36" as-was a 13 bore, owned by Forsyh at one time. They were for round ball & due to the rapid twist would likely strip if tried with heavier charges needed for larger game in Africa or India.

That said, it will likely be fine with up to perhaps 120gr. or so of 2F powder - IF using a VERY tight ball and patch combination. The pressures will be low - it's the recoil that will, as in Forsyth's words "SHAKE THE STOCK". I would not attempt to shoot slugs in it, but stay with round ball. Slugs will increase the recoil and shock to that old gun, much more than will round balls.

You may find that 3 to 4 drams is quite enough powder for shooting deer, boars and bears. You would need these powder charges with a slug as well, in order to obtain any worthwhile killing power and trajectory with them. Round balls will be of more benefit for this purpose, I believe, flying flatter as well as delivering a greater "blow" due to their hemispherical shape.

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