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Fontainebleu
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Where would your money go? New Rigby sporter
      #202425 - 13/02/12 11:57 PM

IF you were to have commisioned a new Mauser sporter in the old Rigby tradition, whos the best bet nowadays? You know what I mean, 7x57, Open sights, light and handy rifle for quick shots.

I`d give Rigby a call but it seems like they are in a bit of a mess with naming rights, so I dont know about the quality anymore?

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Re: Where would your money go? New Rigby sporter [Re: Fontainebleu]
      #202426 - 14/02/12 12:00 AM


I'd go Holland and Holland, partly because I already have one with QD Mounts and Scope and I have not seen a Rigby as good.

That's not to say that a Rigby isn't out there that is as good, just my gun is so well balanced and smooth.

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Re: Where would your money go? New Rigby sporter [Re: 500Nitro]
      #202434 - 14/02/12 02:40 AM

Thanks for the reply! however at 22.000 and up they are a bit outside my budget.
I see Westley richards start off at 12.000 and Jeffery start off at 5000. Anyone have any experience with these?

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Re: Where would your money go? New Rigby sporter [Re: Fontainebleu]
      #202444 - 14/02/12 05:30 AM

Check:

http://www.feine-jagdwaffen.de/cms/index.php?id=6,0,0,1,0,0

http://www.hartmannandweiss.com/en/bolt-action-rifles.php

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Re: Where would your money go? New Rigby sporter [Re: 93mouse]
      #202445 - 14/02/12 05:44 AM

Fontain, you brought up the FNZ and prechtl Golmatic, I think you said the Golmatic costs $4000 approx, go from there and build your own, will cost you less than 12k GBP assuming you donīt want extreme engraving ! Just a thought, best, Mike

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Re: Where would your money go? New Rigby sporter [Re: Mike_Bailey]
      #202448 - 14/02/12 06:23 AM


Fontainbleu

Sorry, I thought we were talking Hypothetical.



I don't know the modern Jeffrey's so can't comment.

WR have always made nice Bolt Action rifles.

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Re: Where would your money go? New Rigby sporter [Re: 500Nitro]
      #202451 - 14/02/12 07:51 AM

Mike, Golmatic dont offer them in left - otherwise I would be over them like a fat chick over a bag of crisps. The 4000 dollars quoted is for the action and nothing else by the way, not even the barrel.



Edited by Fontainebleu (14/02/12 07:55 AM)

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Re: Where would your money go? New Rigby sporter [Re: Fontainebleu]
      #202471 - 14/02/12 01:54 PM

JOEL DORLEAC ....PERIOD....PAUL

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Re: Where would your money go? New Rigby sporter [Re: pjaln]
      #202504 - 15/02/12 12:07 AM

They look nice. However, they are priced on par with Westley Richards and Gibbs rifles.
For that price, they better be good - as they are not english..

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Re: Where would your money go? New Rigby sporter [Re: Fontainebleu]
      #202540 - 15/02/12 03:15 PM

joel dorleac is building the only gun that has the same lines as an early rigby ,,look at there trigger guards ,,and bottom metal ,,look at the wood treatment on the bolt side of any of there guns ,,the comb ,the grip area,,the in house built rear sight base ,,how the bolts are left just like the early rigbys,,,i like westleys and they would be a close second but i dont like the trigger guards and the profiling around the bolt stop if i were to have westleys make a gun for me it would have to be on there older best quality style with raised side panels checkered and all ,,anyway if you havent already go to dorleacs site and look at the steps of fabrication ....paul

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Re: Where would your money go? New Rigby sporter [Re: pjaln]
      #202577 - 15/02/12 10:14 PM

Pjaln, I read this article:

http://www.africanhuntinggazette.com/ind...6&Itemid=25

Which got me thinking.

Ron Wharton of Rigby makes these as well, Ive already spoken to him about it.
I will give dorleac a call also.

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Re: Where would your money go? New Rigby sporter [Re: Fontainebleu]
      #202580 - 15/02/12 11:31 PM

Fontainebleu, donīt go to Rigby. (or the one that purports to be). Give Dorleac a call, best

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Re: Where would your money go? New Rigby sporter [Re: Mike_Bailey]
      #202588 - 16/02/12 12:28 AM

Mike, Im interested as to why you think that - they seem like excellent gunmakers. At least Bill Clinton and George Bush seem to think so, they both have Wharton guns.

As always I am open to enlightenment and I am by no means set in my opinions.
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Re: Where would your money go? New Rigby sporter [Re: Fontainebleu]
      #202589 - 16/02/12 12:29 AM

Just for clarification, its former rigby employees of which I talk. Not the absolute sham that is Rigby California. I`d steer well clear of them. regards.

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Re: Where would your money go? New Rigby sporter [Re: Fontainebleu]
      #202592 - 16/02/12 02:54 AM

If I were looking for as close to a Rigby as I could get I would commission Lon Paul at Tanglewood guns to build one. he had one at SCI two years ago and Paul Roberts actually thought it was a Rigby until he read Lon's name on the barrel.

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Re: Where would your money go? New Rigby sporter [Re: 458Win]
      #202601 - 16/02/12 04:37 AM

i think the british have been away from there original lines of rifles for a while now ,,there are some makers in the states that have a better sense of what is traditional english in the prewar style,,,and without a doubt joel dorleac knows the style,,hartman weiss another,,martin hagn lon paul puts out a nice gun tho im not crazy about the xtra large rear square bridge that are on some of his examples ,,, on the other hand i guess if you specify as close as possible what u want it still is nice to have a well known british firms name on the barrel be it jeffery,gibbs,roberts evans,churchill,westley,holland or andersen wheeler,,ive held a 375 fraser that was built about 1987 it was horribly balanced ugly looking stock and a longish forend that didnt look like anything fraser ever produced the gun bopped around for years last time i held it at cabelas in maine appro. 3 years ago ,, also i wouldnt use a new action like some of the new mag mausers by GMA that did not have a thumb cut it looks too modern ,,when you think of it traditional rigby rifles should be easy for any accomplished gunsmith ...no horn tip,no grip cap,not too fancy wood,military bottom metal reworked(if its a 275) esay checkering pattern simple block front sight ,hard rubber pad or trap butt .... its a hell of a lot more work to copy any prewar jp sauer ....paul

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Re: Where would your money go? New Rigby sporter [Re: pjaln]
      #202602 - 16/02/12 04:51 AM

Fontain, I was talking about Rigby Calif, best

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Re: Where would your money go? New Rigby sporter [Re: Mike_Bailey]
      #202607 - 16/02/12 05:17 AM

Paul and Mike ( and the rest of you), this article was kind of what got my thoughts flying regarding such a rifle:

http://www.africanhuntinggazette.com/ind...6&Itemid=25

Dorleacs have a 2 year build time, so Im not sure if I want to wait that long...
Im sure there are loads of makers who can make such a rifle, but there seem to be a few ex-employees of rigby who have specialized in making just these guns, suchs as Gibbs and Ron Wharton.

Am I crazy to feel a bit inclined towards having such a rifle built in england and stamped/approved in London?

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Re: Where would your money go? New Rigby sporter [Re: Fontainebleu]
      #202610 - 16/02/12 05:36 AM

Fontainebleu,
Sounds to me that you really want a vintage Rigby.
Call Joe Salter immediately if you want the best .275 Rigby readily available.
The real deal and no wait!


http://www.joesalter.com/

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Edited by Huvius (16/02/12 05:37 AM)

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Re: Where would your money go? New Rigby sporter [Re: Huvius]
      #202612 - 16/02/12 06:13 AM

Huvius, Im a left-handed shooter! Thats the problem and hence why there is probably little way around commisioning a new one.. or am I wrong?

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Re: Where would your money go? New Rigby sporter [Re: Fontainebleu]
      #202615 - 16/02/12 07:00 AM

Ahhhh, I see.

A friend of mine has ordered a left handed Newton Leverbolt from Harald Wolf in the classic British style.
A very neat gun.

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Re: Where would your money go? New Rigby sporter [Re: Huvius]
      #202616 - 16/02/12 07:45 AM


Hartmann und Weiss ober alles!!.

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Re: Where would your money go? New Rigby sporter [Re: rigbymauser]
      #202650 - 16/02/12 12:15 PM

go to todd ramirez site ,,i think its customguns.com look at the rifle built for craig boddington it was donre in rigby fashion .. i tried to post a pic but its not happening....paul

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Re: Where would your money go? New Rigby sporter [Re: pjaln]
      #202653 - 16/02/12 12:39 PM

I'd go back to our own AFRO408

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Re: Where would your money go? New Rigby sporter [Re: tophet1]
      #202660 - 16/02/12 02:34 PM

go to reto beuhlers site he represents jeffery in the states there are pics of some new jeffery rifles that look quite nice....paul

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