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mehulkamdar
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British Breeders Try to Create a "Super Spaniel"
#277340 - 30/01/16 10:59 AM

Historically, there were only two spaniel breeds, with Shakespeare and several others talking about the now extinct English Water Spaniel, and the Land Spaniel. Sadly, the derived breeds - Sussex, Clumber, Springer, Cocker etc are now too deeply inbred, and are slowly dying out. Some British veterinarians are mooting a return to the past by creating a "Super Spaniel" that would be a mix of existing spaniel breeds.

There is also a separate movement to get the UK Kennel Club to recognize the "Sprocker Spaniel," a popular Springer - English Cocker mix.

I wonder what members here think about these attempts. I, for one, love the idea. One of my favorite dogs was a golden Cocker. She died horribly from congenital disease. I'd love to see that none of these beautiful dogs ever suffers the way she did.

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JabaliHunter
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Re: British Breeders Try to Create a "Super Spaniel" [Re: mehulkamdar]
#277371 - 31/01/16 09:54 AM

Sprockers are great dogs...

Unfortunately kennel club recognition is usually the beginning of the end for good working dogs as the breed then gets show-bred to death until the good working traits are gone...

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Re: British Breeders Try to Create a "Super Spaniel" [Re: JabaliHunter]
#277391 - 01/02/16 02:57 AM

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Sprockers are great dogs...

as the breed then gets show-bred to death until the good working traits are gone...

And that is definitely the truth too!

Hybrid vigour,you cant beat it in the dogs lineup.

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DarylS
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Re: British Breeders Try to Create a "Super Spaniel" [Re: gryphon]
#277396 - 01/02/16 05:15 AM

The Brittany/Springer crosses make wonderful bird dogs- ducks and upland. Some point, some flush - they all retrieve.

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HeymSR20
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Re: British Breeders Try to Create a "Super Spaniel" [Re: DarylS]
#294308 - 27/01/17 02:41 AM

We are seeing a lot of crossbreeds being used and they make very good dogs. Popular amongst game keepers in the Scottish Borders are Border pointers - a lab cross German short haired or wire haired pointer, sporockers and lab cross she anieks are also common. I am training a lab cross Bavarian mountain hound. There have been a couple of litters and are skinny Labrador with a supercharged nose, lots of drive and an element of "I know best and I will do what I want" about them, but I expect once she gets a bit older and steadier they will be even better. Insurance cost for a cross breed are about half that of a pedigree.

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