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RE: Book, Shooting the British Double Rifle, please comment
22/02/08 06:11 AM

In the first publication of this Australian book (second publiction is now available, and it may be considerably improved over the first publication--I HOPE SO---but don't know, as I haven't seen it), the "problems" related below were noticed with what was written. If you are involved with handloading for the British double rifles, I would like to bring your attention to these things, for they are terribly important, some of them from a safety standpoing. I would like to see what you experienced handloaders have to say about all this, especially you guys from Australia:

This book suggests use of IM 4895 powder for Nitro For Black loads. I found this to be quite satisfactory, and I have often used it. However, Ross Seyfried suggests use of IMR 4198, and I found that to be satisfactory too. And, the 4198 was pressure tested by Sherman Bell, with results published in Double Gun Journal, and with that information, one can be assured that 4198 provides accurate, safe, and an excellent powder for nitro for black.

More importantly, book suggests IMR 4831 powder for large cases, a true saftey concern, as Ross Seyfried, Champlin Firearms, double rifle builder Owen, and others, have said that several double rifles have been blown apart with such powder for handloads.

Finally, on page 71, for the .400 Purdey nitro for black load given, one will find that it is not a nitro for black load at all, but is a full nitro load, so never should that load be used in a black powder rifle.

Book mentions early day use of fillers such as plastic, cereal, etc. but doesn't specifically say that such fillers can be dangerous, as they do produce high pressurs, so today, such fillers are never used by those who know what they are doing, only kapok, as originally suggested by Elmer Keith, and later by Ross Seyfried are safe to use for fillers in handloads.

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RE: Book, Shooting the British Double Rifle, please comment	doubleriflejack	22/02/08 06:11 AM
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