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lapua
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450/400 or 500NE
#66932 - 13/12/06 04:29 PM

Hi guys I am going to buy a Heym 88B safari in 500NE but every time I think gee what about the recoil ! Not being a big chap and light on my feet @ 74kg's hmmmm might be better
to getting one in 450/400 has anyone had the same thought ?
I want to enjoy the thing having not worry about getting sore head at end of days shooting any comments welcome
oh by the way the biggest cal I shoot is .375H&H mag.

cheers

lapua

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NE450No2
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Re: 450/400 or 500NE [Re: lapua]
#66937 - 13/12/06 05:47 PM

lapua
I highly recommend you shoot a 500 Nitro double before you buy one.

I hunt with a 450 No2 and a 450/400.
I think you would be much happier with a 450/400.

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lapua
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Re: 450/400 or 500NE [Re: NE450No2]
#66938 - 13/12/06 07:41 PM

thnaks mate that's how I feel awaiting on Heym to start making them in that call.

Cheers

lapua !

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ozhunter
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Re: 450/400 or 500NE [Re: NE450No2]
#66939 - 13/12/06 07:53 PM

Hi Lapua,
At the moment I am using a 470NE and must say I can shoot it well, BUT I am seling it for a lighter, faster, less recoil, more versatile 450/400 and would think a Heym in 450NE or 450/400 would be great.
The American Distributor {a NITROEXPRESS member} can have it built with 26" barrels and a nice pancake cheek piece also.
WARNING; The Australian Distributor..
Regards
ozhunter

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hoppdoc
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Re: 450/400 or 500NE [Re: ozhunter]
#66943 - 13/12/06 09:27 PM

I would agree with NE450No2 and I have a 500 NE!!
You can shoot it rapidly but it does abuse you.And I am a big guy at 250+ pounds.

I would think the 450/400 could be used as well for most everything else except close range Ele.I think my wish list for my next African Double Rifle would be a 450/400 but in reality will most probably a 9.3 which I can justify better for stateside hunting.

If only Merkel would make a 450/400 DR!!

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Edited by hoppdoc (13/12/06 09:30 PM)

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NitroX
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Re: 450/400 or 500NE [Re: ozhunter]
#66947 - 13/12/06 09:55 PM

Quote:

Hi Lapua,
At the moment I am using a 470NE and must say I can shoot it well, BUT I am seling it for a lighter, faster, less recoil, more versatile 450/400 and would think a Heym in 450NE or 450/400 would be great.
The American Distributor {a NITROEXPRESS member} can have it built with 26" barrels and a nice pancake cheek piece also.

"new_guy" on NE.com is an American distributor. Check out his sponsorship banner, or the following link:

.450/.400 3 inch - new chambering for Heym doubles

I would like one myself very much.

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4seventy
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Re: 450/400 or 500NE [Re: lapua]
#66949 - 13/12/06 10:16 PM

lapua,
Talking recoil, the 500 NE is a big step up from the 375 H&H.
The 450-400 is mild in recoil compared to a 500 NE.

The 450-400 IMO is a better choice for an all round rifle than the 500, plus 450-400's are the flavour of the month right now so you could most likely sell it off without too much trouble if you wanted more gun later on.

That said, the 500 is a wonderfull cartridge and despite my "4seventy" handle, the 500 Nitro 3 inch is my favourite big chambering in a double.

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Re: 450/400 or 500NE [Re: lapua]
#66976 - 14/12/06 03:56 AM

Lapua,

I don't liker ecoil at all myself and I was kindly given two of Ernie Stalman's 40-400s at last year's BGRC Lodi match and found them very nice to shoot. Recoilw as like shooting a shotgun and no problem at all even for me. If you want a light recoiling gun you may find the 450-400's recoil even less than a 375's.

Cheers!

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500Nitro
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Re: 450/400 or 500NE [Re: mehulkamdar]
#66978 - 14/12/06 04:23 AM

lapua

Even though recoil is subjective and partly dependant on stock fit, weight of gun etc, at 74kgs I think you would really feel the 500 Nitro recoil - it is a step up from the 470 and I ntoice it even though I am 100kgs.

If you are in Melbourne anytime, I'll give you a shot of a couple, all of which have different stocks / weights.

450/400 would be a far better option.

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lapua
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Re: 450/400 or 500NE [Re: ozhunter]
#67019 - 14/12/06 07:29 AM

please PM about nthe warning bit mate !

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lapua
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Re: 450/400 or 500NE [Re: NitroX]
#67021 - 14/12/06 07:33 AM

this is all good news mate/guys I am dealing with Heym at the moment to get an order togather ... see what comes up
soon.

Cheers

lapua

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lapua
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Re: 450/400 or 500NE [Re: 500Nitro]
#67024 - 14/12/06 08:47 AM

That would be great mate I'll be going to the shotshow in late may 07 so I'll take you up on it !

Cheers

lapua

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lapua
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Re: 450/400 or 500NE [Re: mehulkamdar]
#67025 - 14/12/06 08:48 AM

trhat's great buddy thanks for the info

Cheers

lapua

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lapua
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Re: 450/400 or 500NE [Re: 500Nitro]
#67026 - 14/12/06 08:51 AM

500 looks like I am doing the right thing for myself

by the way where is the best place to buy dies and brass in 450/400 ?

lapua

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lapua
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Re: 450/400 or 500NE [Re: 4seventy]
#67027 - 14/12/06 08:56 AM

Thanks Allan for the info mate by the way could you PM your dates for 07 and pricing that would be great

cheers

lapua

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