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casper50
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Shot the .577 Boxer
      #382686 - 19/02/24 04:40 AM

Got the German .577 boxer double rifle shooting today. Someone on another site said that it might be chambered for the .577 Boxer cartridge. I'm pretty sure that it is. Dimensions are almost spot on.

[https://youtu.be/r9OrAFP4YR4](https://youtu.be/r9OrAFP4YR4)

https://youtu.be/r9OrAFP4YR4


Edited by NitroX (19/02/24 03:42 PM)

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Re: Shot the .577 Boxer [Re: casper50]
      #382689 - 19/02/24 06:35 AM

That's cool. A light gun.

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Re: Shot the .577 Boxer [Re: DarylS]
      #382690 - 19/02/24 06:57 AM

Great to see you got her going Casper!
Looks in terrific condition, more than capable of taking deer that's for sure.

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Re: Shot the .577 Boxer [Re: 93x64mm]
      #382699 - 19/02/24 03:58 PM

Caspar, so is the .577 Boxer, the .577 Trantor?

Can you tell us what the ballistics, bullet weight is supposed to be for it?

The .577 Snider is I believe 480 grs bullet and 70 grs black powder. I don't know the velocity.

The .577 Boxer is a milder cartridge.

Both were used in Howdah pistols.

That looks like a nice fun double rifle to use. In the black powder and bore rifle days, these .577s were regarded as medium game rifles!

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Re: Shot the .577 Boxer [Re: NitroX]
      #382700 - 19/02/24 04:16 PM

It is a black powder cartridge, based on the .577 caliber cartridge used in the Snider rifle.

The early version of the cartridge used a Boxer-style casing, based on the .577 Boxer rifle cartridge used in the Snider conversion. The projectile used was a round lead ball. This casing came in different lengths, ranging from .078 to 1.21 inches (19.8 to 30.73mm). The overall length ranged up to 1.42 inches (36.06mm). The rim would sometimes back up against the revolver's recoil plate on firing, causing a jam. Tranter's revolver design incorporated a separate backplate at the rear of the cylinder, which was it keyed to and rotated with.

When solid drawn brass cases were introduced, Eley Brothers began manufacturing the cartridge with this type of casing while still also offering the original Boxer construction. The drawn brass cartridge has a typical case length of .80 inches with a 1.22 inch overall length, made with both flat- and round-nosed bullets. The bullet weight ranges from 19.7 grams (304.01 grains) to 31.7 grams (489.7 grains).

Because the cartridge casings were based on the .577 rifle cartridges, headstamps are sometimes (rarely) seen that refer to the rifle case used in the manufacture of the revolver cartridges. For instance, some cases were based on the .577/450 cartridge as indicated by the headstamp.

Eley Brothers had also manufactured shot loads with tied-nose and folded nose paper containers. Folded nose shot rounds were made in a variety of lengths, three of which being 1.17, 1.25, and 1.34 inches.

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Re: Shot the .577 Boxer [Re: casper50]
      #382702 - 19/02/24 04:56 PM

So the .577 Boxer and .577 Eley and maybe .577 Trantor are all the same cartridge(s)?

Given the variety of case lengths and types?

Perhaps should be defined in modern terms including the case length and maybe construction?

Eg .577 Eley 0.80".
Eg .577 Trantor or Boxer 1.2"

All based on the ,577 Snider.

These would Bevan interesting case, grass, original cartridges to collect it the many variations, construction etc.

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Edited by NitroX (19/02/24 04:57 PM)

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Re: Shot the .577 Boxer [Re: casper50]
      #382703 - 19/02/24 04:59 PM

Quote:

Got the German .577 boxer double rifle shooting today. Someone on another site said that it might be chambered for the .577 Boxer cartridge. I'm pretty sure that it is. Dimensions are almost spot on.

[https://youtu.be/r9OrAFP4YR4](https://youtu.be/r9OrAFP4YR4)

https://youtu.be/r9OrAFP4YR4




Caspar's previous thread:

577 double rifle arrived yesterday
http://forums.nitroexpress.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=382070&an=&page=0&vc=1

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casper50
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Re: Shot the .577 Boxer [Re: NitroX]
      #382705 - 19/02/24 05:17 PM

My chamber measures 1.33" so, not that much of a length difference from the 1.2" boxer.

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