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NitroX
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Zim cow elephant hunts - how much?
#150955 - 17/01/10 06:34 PM

How much are Zim cow elephant hunts going for at the moment? Either tusked cow or tuskless hunts?

What's the additional cow "trophy" fee as well?

Any deals going on?

Thanks in advance.

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Maddog
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Re: Zim cow elephant hunts - how much? [Re: NitroX]
#150974 - 18/01/10 01:45 AM

check out www.cmsafaris.com/ Buzz and Miles probably have some of the best tuskless ele hunting in Zim. Price sheet shows a little over $10,000, plus the usual costs of getting there, for a 7 day hunt.

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Ripp
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Re: Zim cow elephant hunts - how much? [Re: NitroX]
#151019 - 18/01/10 11:14 AM

I am heading to SCI on Wed of this week..actually one of the hunts I plan to check in to...that and tuskless..as they seem to have serious "attitude"..

Will advise upon my return

Ripp

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Re: Zim cow elephant hunts - how much? [Re: Ripp]
#151150 - 19/01/10 05:02 PM

..."Attitude" Ripp, HA! Cows begin each day with PMS, and it's down hill from there. Bulls are far more tolerable.

SCI is the place to shop for prices this time of year.

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ozhunter
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Re: Zim cow elephant hunts - how much? [Re: JLS]
#151153 - 19/01/10 05:40 PM

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..."Attitude" Ripp, HA! Cows begin each day with PMS, and it's down hill from there. Bulls are far more tolerable.

SCI is the place to shop for prices this time of year.

That's why I strongly believe you are best off with the biggest calibre rifle you can handle when it comes to Cow Ele hunts, particularly during early season amongst the thick stuff.
With Bulls, I would like a light weight rifle and would be happy enough with a 9.3mm.

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Re: Zim cow elephant hunts - how much? [Re: ozhunter]
#151155 - 19/01/10 07:53 PM

IIRC - Ian Nyschens used to refer to them as "bitches of the bush" and came to the conclusion that a .404 was not powerful enough for rooting them out of the thick Zambezi valley 'jess'...

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ozhunter
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Re: Zim cow elephant hunts - how much? [Re: JabaliHunter]
#151158 - 19/01/10 08:28 PM

Although the 404 was considered a tad light for this game. Loaded with the Woodleigh 450grn FMJs at 2200fps would add a bit to the original loads.

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Ripp
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Re: Zim cow elephant hunts - how much? [Re: ozhunter]
#151179 - 20/01/10 01:24 AM

I recently saw an ad for a 10 or 12 day bull hunt in Zim for $17,500....thought all in all that was a pretty good deal..don't think one will find much for less than that on bulls...

Unless things have changed a lot --think cow and tuskless hunts will be relatively inexpensive this year...at least on can hope..

Ripp

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Re: Zim cow elephant hunts - how much? [Re: Ripp]
#151188 - 20/01/10 03:26 AM

Check with Roger Whittall Safaris. I was going to do a tuskless hunt this year with Roger, but finances won't allow it. He quoted me a very good daily rate. I hunted with RWS before and had a great hunt. I think tuskless cow trophy fee is around $3500.00 if memory serves me. Don Crane at Safari Outfitters hooked me up. Maybe Magara is available to PH! Great guy!

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EricD
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Re: Zim cow elephant hunts - how much? [Re: bigmaxx]
#151195 - 20/01/10 06:36 AM

Seems prices are steadily increasing surprisingly (and perhaps unreasonably?) fast. Only 5 years ago, a 7 day cow ele hunt with Buzz and Myles was about US$6000 including a tuskless cow!

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Ripp
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Re: Zim cow elephant hunts - how much? [Re: EricD]
#151231 - 20/01/10 03:02 PM

IMHO, the world economy remains in its current state--prices will either decline or some operations will no longer be in business...those types of hunts are what us "common" folk go on...the really wealthy are not as apt to go on those--much more the big bulls etc..again IMHO... it is the average "common folk" who will cut these events more quickly again, that the wealthy...

Maybe I'm crazy..but that is my take..

Personally hope it all gets sorted out, we all go hunting more and have a great life... but????

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Re: Zim cow elephant hunts - how much? [Re: Ripp]
#151278 - 21/01/10 01:41 AM

Trophy fees and day rates have risen dramatically for non trophy game like tuskless. Things have gotten over priced if you ask me.

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Re: Zim cow elephant hunts - how much? [Re: AspenHill]
#151285 - 21/01/10 02:22 AM

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Things have gotten over priced if you ask me.

That's for sure. US$3500 as a trophy fee for a tuskless cow is just plain ridiculous. As is US$600 for "field preparation" of trophies. It's not as if a skinners wages, the salt used etc amount to even a quarter of that. Even including transport back to town.

Having just returned from Burkina Faso, I can mention that they charged about Euro 150,- per animal for the field preparation of a cape. And about half of that for a "Euro skull mount". I consider both to be highly overpriced considering what wages and supplies cost locally. So this trend seems to be spreading all over.

However, as Ripp mentioned, this greedy mentality might end up coming back to bite them on the ass with the current financial situation in the world.

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Ripp
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Re: Zim cow elephant hunts - how much? [Re: EricD]
#151394 - 22/01/10 05:25 AM

Finding prices in the $8400 to $9500 range so far..

Ripp

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NitroX
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Re: Zim cow elephant hunts - how much? [Re: EricD]
#151673 - 25/01/10 12:50 AM

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That's for sure. US$3500 as a trophy fee for a tuskless cow is just plain ridiculous.

I would guess that might be the gov't regulated price ?

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Re: Zim cow elephant hunts - how much? [Re: Ripp]
#151674 - 25/01/10 12:51 AM

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Finding prices in the $8400 to $9500 range so far..

Ripp

Including trophy fee and other fees?

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Re: Zim cow elephant hunts - how much? [Re: NitroX]
#151710 - 25/01/10 05:44 AM

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That's for sure. US$3500 as a trophy fee for a tuskless cow is just plain ridiculous.

I would guess that might be the gov't regulated price ?

It's what I saw on the CM website. Gov't regulated or not, it's still ridiculous!

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Ripp
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Re: Zim cow elephant hunts - how much? [Re: NitroX]
#151714 - 25/01/10 05:50 AM

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Finding prices in the $8400 to $9500 range so far..

Ripp

Including trophy fee and other fees?

I was quoted that price as ALL IN..

I am actually meeting this fellow again this weekend..he is coming to community --plan to have breakfast with him on Saturday morning..can get you his web site and other info if you wish..

I am trying to set something up for 2011..

Ripp

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Re: Zim cow elephant hunts - how much? [Re: Ripp]
#151717 - 25/01/10 05:56 AM

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I recently saw an ad for a 10 or 12 day bull hunt in Zim for $17,500....thought all in all that was a pretty good deal..don't think one will find much for less than that on bulls...

Unless things have changed a lot --think cow and tuskless hunts will be relatively inexpensive this year...at least on can hope..

Ripp

I hope it will be in 2-3 years.

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Re: Zim cow elephant hunts - how much? [Re: Ripp]
#151769 - 25/01/10 04:07 PM

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I was quoted that price as ALL IN..

Thanks for the info.

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I am actually meeting this fellow again this weekend..he is coming to community --plan to have breakfast with him on Saturday morning..can get you his web site and other info if you wish..

I am trying to set something up for 2011..

Ripp,

he is welcome.

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Ripp
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Re: Zim cow elephant hunts - how much? [Re: NitroX]
#151807 - 25/01/10 11:39 PM

NitroX

The guy I am talking to is George Gehrman on this web site--have used him before and known him for about 10 years..great guy and very honest...

http://trackingaa.com/ourConsultants-george.html

There is also a Zim elephant bull hunt available--12 days---$18,500. I have hunted with that PH as well..in I have taken 3 cape buffalo with him...

Ripp

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Re: Zim cow elephant hunts - how much? [Re: Ripp]
#152645 - 03/02/10 04:53 AM

I know an outfit that is offering 2 PAC bulls for 6k + 3k each trophy fees. PM me for more information.

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Ripp
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Re: Zim cow elephant hunts - how much? [Re: reddy375]
#152659 - 03/02/10 06:33 AM

Are they exportable ivory to the US??

Ripp

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Re: Zim cow elephant hunts - how much? [Re: Ripp]
#152735 - 03/02/10 09:09 PM

Not PAC quota.

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Re: Zim cow elephant hunts - how much? [Re: NitroX]
#152738 - 03/02/10 10:31 PM

Quote:

How much are Zim cow elephant hunts going for at the moment? Either tusked cow or tuskless hunts?

What's the additional cow "trophy" fee as well?

Any deals going on?

Thanks in advance.

John, about US$ 750/ day, 7 days, with US$ 2750/ cow or PAC elephant in Zim.
In Namibia, a non export/ non trophy/ "own use" bull will go for US$ 1000/ day, and US$ 5000 for the elephant bull.

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