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Andrew
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Krico "imperia"l 8x68s
      #135065 - 11/05/09 06:54 AM

Dear all.

I have recently been phoned by a gunsmith friend of mine, who has advised that he has "a super rifle" of the title for sale. I am told it has gold inlay everywhere, and is mouted within a piece of wood "to die for".

To my mild embarrassment, I know little of Krico rifles, and even less of the calibre 8x68s. I currently own a 7RM, have owned a .300 Win Mag and Weatherby Mag, and believe the 8 Mil will fall some way between the two. Other than resorting to the usual reloading manuals, and "Cartridges of the world", where on the web will I find information about either the calibre or the rifle??

I am going to view it witinin the next week or so, but I would very much appreciate the views of the forum about either the rifle of calibre. I am primarily a Blaser R93 man, and this is very much a poke in the dark for me, especially with the calire. That said, if it is as nice as described, I would be a fool to overlook it.

I would very much appreicate as many web links as you can supply me with.

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PS My main quarry is UK deer and Boar, together with German Boar.

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Re: Krico "imperia"l 8x68s [Re: Andrew]
      #135076 - 11/05/09 10:23 AM

Actually the 8 X 68S should bee superior in power to the .300WinMag ( unless for some odd reason this Krico had a short barrel) Ive owned 2 Kricos in the past , both shot well , though mine not in this calibre.
If I recall RWS 187gr had a muzzle velocity of 3280 in the 8X68S

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Re: Krico "imperia"l 8x68s [Re: DuggaBoy]
      #135079 - 11/05/09 10:53 AM

Great caliber.

Is this Krico action the same as the Heym SR-20?

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Re: Krico "imperia"l 8x68s [Re: 9.3x57]
      #135132 - 12/05/09 02:25 AM

Thanks for the replies.

I have no idea about the action, but I suppose it is possible they are the same or similar. I can find very little on the web on either calibre or rifle. I suppose media may be there, but in German??

Certainly seems the calibre is a do it all one (apart from African heavies) within reason.

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Re: Krico "imperia"l 8x68s [Re: Andrew]
      #135141 - 12/05/09 05:43 AM

Andrew,

Krico are still around and their website is: http://www.krico.de/ They are now owned by an Italian group. They made several different types of rifles including sporters on MAuser actions and on their own PF actions. You could try e-mailing them to get more details about your gun.

That said, it would be nice if you would post pics here and show her off. Kricos are very nice rifles and you wouldn;t hesitate to show Scarlett Johannsen off if she was on your arm, would you?

Congratulations on a nice rifle and good hunting!

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Re: Krico "imperia"l 8x68s [Re: mehulkamdar]
      #135189 - 12/05/09 04:45 PM

Krico has a very good quality to their guns, at least the ones that made it to sweden.
And the caliber is the way to go, an old german magnum thats still popular, if its a good price buy it and sell the gold on it to sponsor it

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Re: Krico "imperia"l 8x68s [Re: 450_366]
      #135228 - 13/05/09 03:02 AM

Well, if I do get it I will try and post some pictures. I will also see about selling the gold!!!
Does anyone have any more web based info on load data etc for the calibre?

Regards

Andrew

Edited by Andrew (13/05/09 08:43 AM)

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Re: Krico "imperia"l 8x68s [Re: Andrew]
      #135271 - 13/05/09 03:36 PM

that 8x68s is a hell of a cracker mate

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Re: Krico "imperia"l 8x68s [Re: gryphon]
      #135282 - 13/05/09 08:08 PM


"that 8x68s is a hell of a cracker mate"

That seems to be the general opinion. It is odd therefore that it doesnt seem to have gained as much popularity as any of the belted magnums. I supposed it is that old 8mm problem, and the fact that it offers little more than the 300's, less than the 338's, and with a reduced selection of bullets?

Either way, it seems it would make a good all around calibre save for dangerous game. It is a wonder also it never got military use given the era in which it was created, although I suppose by that time, the 8x57 had already got a head start.

I found a little data on this page (http://ericsettle.co.uk/SUPMAGS.htm ) which gives some history.

Andrew

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Re: Krico "imperia"l 8x68s [Re: Andrew]
      #135303 - 13/05/09 11:10 PM

Not originating in the USA is part of the reason this cartridge is not better known. European shooters have known of its virtues for ages. With better quality bullets in the 200 gr class now available for the 325 WSM, there is also no great problem with components, brass is always going to be the hardest to come by. I have a RWS bullet board which has a 8mm bullet on it for these which is a 196gr RN FMJ so they were seen as a multi-duty round in every way I'm guessing.
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Re: Krico "imperia"l 8x68s [Re: shinz]
      #135332 - 14/05/09 04:35 AM

There is a very long line of perfectly capable 'crackers' that have never made it out there that many simply are not aware of.

I would be happy walking about down under with the 8 mm job.

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Re: Krico "imperia"l 8x68s [Re: gryphon]
      #135373 - 14/05/09 02:48 PM

I used one of Karl Stumpfe's Mauser 98's in 8x68S for hartebeest, gemsbok, springbok as well maybe warthog? I used my 9.3x74R for most of the warthog.

Very capable. I wanted to try his out, as I want my principal "world" hunting bolt action to be in 8x68S. Even got some brass but no rifle yet.

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Re: Krico "imperia"l 8x68s [Re: NitroX]
      #135575 - 18/05/09 07:44 AM

From what I have read on the internet, the calibre seems very capable. Unfortunatly, I cant find many sites that give much reloading information about it. Can anyone help? Certainly in the UK, reloading will be a must given we only seem to get RWS ammunition, and even then by special order.

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Re: Krico "imperia"l 8x68s [Re: Andrew]
      #139297 - 21/07/09 08:48 AM

Well I bought it!!!!!

Perhaps it was not as stunning as I was originally lead to believe, but it is a very nice rifle nonetheless. I will want it threading for a sound moderator, and have a stud installed for a bi pod, but other than that it is ready to go.

Have some brass on order, and have some RWS rounds (187grn) to play with in the meantime. I will have to post some pictures when I figure out how to do it!!!

Thanks to everyone with their help.

Andrew

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Re: Krico "imperia"l 8x68s [Re: Andrew]
      #144946 - 02/11/09 04:05 AM

Some pictures. I hope the link works. Very Germanic style as you can see.

Since purchase, I have fitted a sound moderator which reduced the recoil to very modest levels. Its a heavy long rifle, but it shoots very well.

Andrew


http://i600.photobucket.com/albums/tt89/AWB-8mag/8x68/L1000580.jpg
http://i600.photobucket.com/albums/tt89/AWB-8mag/8x68/L1000584.jpg
http://i600.photobucket.com/albums/tt89/AWB-8mag/8x68/L1000586.jpg
http://i600.photobucket.com/albums/tt89/AWB-8mag/8x68/L1000585.jpg
http://i600.photobucket.com/albums/tt89/AWB-8mag/8x68/L1000587.jpg
http://i600.photobucket.com/albums/tt89/AWB-8mag/8x68/L1000581.jpg

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Re: Krico "imperia"l 8x68s [Re: Andrew]
      #144947 - 02/11/09 04:51 AM

Here you go.
When you post a message, on the composition page there's a selection in the "Instant UBB Code" block that says "Image"
Pressing that gives you a box into which to paste each individual image link. Include no extra spaces or puntcuation.
Then you're good to go...












Cool rifle!






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Edited by CptCurl (31/07/10 02:22 AM)

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Re: Krico "imperia"l 8x68s [Re: tinker]
      #144959 - 02/11/09 07:45 AM

Thanks Tinker!!

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Re: Krico "imperia"l 8x68s [Re: Andrew]
      #144967 - 02/11/09 08:49 AM

Andrew,

Another beautiful rifle! Very different and Germanic but some incredible work went into it.

Tinker,

Thanks for the pics, my friend!

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Re: Krico "imperia"l 8x68s [Re: mehulkamdar]
      #144971 - 02/11/09 09:24 AM

yep that will pop a few eyes when you get her out of the safe!

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Re: Krico "imperia"l 8x68s [Re: gryphon]
      #150920 - 17/01/10 07:55 AM

Loading data is in the Hornady Handbook( I think it's the 3rd edition), A-Square, (who also seem to make cases), Vihtavuori printed a reloading booklet in 1992 with it, but it's not in the most recent booklet by them, Nick Harvey's Practical Reloading Manual (1st Edition), has it also. I'm pretty sure ADI of Australia have it in their booklet too.

Jeff Munnel wrote an article; "An Interesting Weatherby in a Very Interesting Caliber, (The 8x68S)" in The Accurate Rifle, March 2002. This includes reloading data and describes both RWS and Hirtenberg brass. He says, "I know an African P.H. who thinks the 8x68S is the best African antelope cartridge extant, and I find it impossible to disagree with him". I would think it'd be ideal for an African safari that included both antelope and baited leopard.

A-square state: "There are a large number of rifles chambered for this cartridge floating around Africa especially in the ex-German colonies of Namibia (German South-West Africa), and Tanzania, (Tanganyika). Their owners swear by the cartridge and use it as a yard-stick, (meter stick ?), to measure the performance of American cartridges".

The 8x68S was released in 1938 by RWS, (not Schüler, as Wikipedia states, the "S" stands for a .323" bore). Some years later the bullet design was changed to make the cartridge O.A.L. shorter to work through standard actions. It was also given a new bullet by RWS, the "KS" and this lit up sales in Europe where it is quite popular as "the German Magnum".

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Re: Krico "imperia"l 8x68s [Re: Kiwi_bloke]
      #159228 - 20/04/10 08:12 AM

Beautiful weapon but for a handloader only RWS brass is available as far as I know.I knew of a fellow in Northern Canada that had his barrel set back and rechambered to use available .338 Win Mag brass retaining the 8mm bore.That gun is too nice to muck with...............Harold

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Re: Krico "imperia"l 8x68s [Re: mbogo3]
      #159265 - 21/04/10 04:11 AM

Hi Andrew!

Here a link to some reloading data:

http://www.reloadersnest.com/frontpage.asp?CaliberID=226

As You can see, there are plenty of american bullets available. Brass might be a bit expensive though. I would have a look at egun and send a PM to the seller and ask him for the cost of shipping to the US in advance:

http://66.163.168.225/babelfish/translat...59c1ba09dcdf0f9

If You need help with German language, send me a PM.

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Re: Krico "imperia"l 8x68s [Re: Kalunga]
      #159272 - 21/04/10 10:16 AM

pimped out ...barvarian stock....nice...paul

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Re: Krico "imperia"l 8x68s [Re: pjaln]
      #164949 - 25/07/10 12:22 PM

Also Sellier + Belott............Harold

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