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AussieHunter
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Dry Fire
#87625 - 23/10/07 08:27 AM

Is it bad to dry fire a centre fire rifle? I have heard it is bad to dry fire a rimfire. I am adjusting my trigger and i dont want to stuff the firing pin on my rifle. So i just want to know if i can or cannot dry fire my rifle.

Cheers

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475Guy
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Re: Dry Fire [Re: AussieHunter]
#87634 - 23/10/07 12:15 PM

It depends on how old your rifle is. If it's over 20 yrs old, the firing pin may be fatigued and just might crystalize on you. You just may short stop that by just putting in a new firing pin and dry fire to your heart's content. I dry fire all my firearms religiously since you can't just go out and shoot everyday.

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AussieHunter
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Re: Dry Fire [Re: 475Guy]
#87645 - 23/10/07 07:22 PM

The rifle is brand new

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Mike_McGuire
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Re: Dry Fire [Re: AussieHunter]
#87646 - 23/10/07 10:18 PM

AussieHunter

The only centre fire I have seen break the firing pin with dry firing was the M94 30/30. However, they are totally different to the firing pin set up in a bolt action.

Dry firing a bolt action does not worry me in the least. If there was to be a problem then the dry firing involved to do the trigger would not even come close.

Mike

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Re: Dry Fire [Re: AussieHunter]
#88469 - 08/11/07 06:59 AM

If the maker of the rifle says so its OK other wise no.

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xausa
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Re: Dry Fire [Re: AussieHunter]
#88472 - 08/11/07 07:53 AM

It's bad to dry fire a rimfire because the firing pin can impact the rim recess part of the chamber, with negative effects to both barrel and firing pin. This problem can be avoided simply by leaving a fired case in the chamber to cushion the blow.

The use of an appropriate snap cap in a center fire rifle effectively renders dry firing with it safe. A snap cap can be improvised by resizing and depriming a fired case, then plugging the primer pocket with a plug of hard rubber.

If you plan to add a bullet to create a dummy cartridge, bore a couple of holes through the sides of the case, making it identifiable as a dummy round at a glance. Such dummy cartridges are invaluable resources for rapid fire and rapid reloading practice.

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Ripp
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Re: Dry Fire [Re: AussieHunter]
#88513 - 09/11/07 12:04 AM

Quote:

Is it bad to dry fire a centre fire rifle? I have heard it is bad to dry fire a rimfire. I am adjusting my trigger and i dont want to stuff the firing pin on my rifle. So i just want to know if i can or cannot dry fire my rifle.

Cheers

totally agree it is NOT hard on MOST centerfires to dry fire---also agree a snap cap is a good idea--as to rim fire--bad as described above---

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Re: Dry Fire [Re: AussieHunter]
#88537 - 09/11/07 03:58 AM

Quote:

Is it bad to dry fire a centre fire rifle? I have heard it is bad to dry fire a rimfire. I am adjusting my trigger and i dont want to stuff the firing pin on my rifle. So i just want to know if i can or cannot dry fire my rifle.

Cheers

; For years, dry fire practise was the best way to practise prone, kneeling and standing position shooting in the living room during inclement weather. It will not hurt most centrefire actions. Many rimfire firing pins hit the chamber's rim recess if there isn't a case chambered. Some rimfires are safe to dry-fire as the pin stops short and doesn't overlapp the rim recess, many aren't.

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Marrakai
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Re: Dry Fire [Re: DarylS]
#88589 - 09/11/07 11:33 PM

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Some rimfires are safe to dry-fire as the pin stops short and doesn't overlapp the rim recess, many aren't.

If they're not, shorten the firing pin protrusion till it stops short of hitting the metal. No earthly reason why a rimfire firing pin nose should touch anything unless a cartridge is chambered.

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Re: Dry Fire [Re: Marrakai]
#88611 - 10/11/07 03:11 AM

You are right, Marrakai - someone askng the original question probably lacks the expertise to properly shorten and re-shape the firing pin tip. Too, these actions sometimes aren't merely equipped with overlength pins, but with pins lacking a positive stop shoulder & therefore they can only stop against the chamber's edge. Pins that have a built-in stop, can, of couse be shortened as you suggest.

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mehulkamdar
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Re: Dry Fire [Re: AussieHunter]
#89196 - 18/11/07 02:44 AM

Probably the wrong thing to say here but I picked up a huge quantity of 22 lr ammunition when I went to Milwaukee some time ago at a fantastic price. Don't have to worry about dry firing either of my 22s.

A brick of 500 rounds cost less than a cup of coffee at a nice restaurant.

I'm guessing that in Australia where you guys get to hunt more than shooters anywhere else ever could, you should find similar bargains and be able to have serious fun.

Good hunting!

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Marrakai
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Re: Dry Fire [Re: mehulkamdar]
#89224 - 18/11/07 11:15 AM

Sadly, in my part of Australia (the 'Deep North'

), the 'rabbits' average 3/4 ton!

OT, apologies, but I'm envious of my southern friends (and Kiwi mates!) who can jump the back fence and take a 10-minute walk with a .22 for rabbits. Whenever I travel I can't get enough rabbit-shooting. ...and it's just perfect for inducting youngsters to the sport of shooting of course!

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mehulkamdar
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Re: Dry Fire [Re: Marrakai]
#89630 - 24/11/07 10:00 AM

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Sadly, in my part of Australia (the 'Deep North' ), the 'rabbits' average 3/4 ton!

Marrakai,

You're doing your best to get us all jealous, aren't you?

Don't expect me to believe that you're really envious of those who can shoot rabbits whenever they want to with the kind of game you have access to.

Good hunting!

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Checkman
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Re: Dry Fire [Re: mehulkamdar]
#100067 - 23/03/08 02:33 PM

You can purchase 22 Long Rifle Snap Caps. A-Zoom makes and sells them (red aluminum/alloy). Oh I don't know about Australia though. Well I have Snap Caps for all my different calibers. It makes Dry Firing all my rifles,shotguns and handguns a more comfortable experience. Especially my older firearms.Also I have found that since I've started Dry Firing on a consistent basis a few years ago my ability as a shooter has improved.

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