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wombat
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475 straight ??
      #89512 - 22/11/07 10:11 PM

What cartridge is this?
http://www.westleyrichards.com/gun/used_guns_2_product.php?id=24888

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Re: 475 straight ?? [Re: wombat]
      #89523 - 23/11/07 01:10 AM

475 NE 3 1/4 is my guess. But I'm confident someone here will tell us for sure.

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Re: 475 straight ?? [Re: SteveH]
      #89531 - 23/11/07 02:48 AM

That's my reading on it also. I looked in George Hoyem's book and COTW. It's the only straight case in that caliber. The others are bottle neck.

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Re: 475 straight ?? [Re: wombat]
      #89595 - 24/11/07 12:42 AM

.475 3 1/4" Nitro Express, not as popular as some of the other .475 rounds but every bit as good, introduced to use the .450 3 1/4" straight case following a general prohibition placed on that bore size by the British Sudanese authorities round about 1907, it was this ban that gave rise to a whole raft of calibres all of similar bore sizes but by different makers, each claiming superiority over their rivals. In truth many of the ballistic dsifferences purely academic more than practical. auumnition is offered by Romey in Germany and Kynoch made in the U.K so the rifle, depending on condition, would make a good buy for someone in the market for a well made double in a good big game calibre

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Re: 475 straight ?? [Re: JTOMLINSON]
      #89625 - 24/11/07 09:18 AM

Yep,
Quite right gentlemen. Every bit as good as a 470, 450 3/14, 500/465, etc. Most are proofed for 480/75gr
I will be selling my sidelock Gosgswell in this cartridge if there is any interest.
Plenty of bullets from Woodleigh.

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Re: 475 straight ?? [Re: wombat]
      #89660 - 24/11/07 06:59 PM

It's a .475 3 1/4" Nitro Express. This was Cogswell & Harrison's proprietary .475 bore introduced in 1907 as a .450 replacement for India. Holland's .500/.465 (actually originally referred to as "the India"), Eley's .475 No. 2, Jeffery's .475 No. 2, and Westley Richard's .476, also all retained as proprietary cartridges, were introduced at the same time for the same reason. The .470 had been introduced much earlier and had not been retained as proprietary, which is the only reason it became the most numerous of the .475 bores.

Since C & H retained the .475 3 1/4" as proprietary, most double rifles chambered for it were either theirs or Rodda's, who C & H licensed the use of the cartridge to.

The range of .450 replacements introduced in 1907 had nothing to do with events in the Sudan, as that market was far too tiny to have had that result. India dwarfed all other rifle markets for the British gun trade. The .475s were introduced to replace the .450s in India due to the tangle of enforcement errors that eventually ensued from the .303, .577/.450 Martini-Henry, and .577 Snider ban there in 1899. Contrary to popular belief, there was never an order banning the .450 Nitros in India.

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