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Hauptjäger
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Question about the Leupold VX-III Heavy Duplex
      #17635 - 06/08/04 12:43 PM

Hi guys, I got my VX-III 1.75x6x32 in today. I ordered the heavy duplex reticule after seeing one on an older Vari-X III scope and seeing the photo in the Cabela’s catalog. I was very surprised with what I got. The reticule looked nothing like the example or the older scope. The heavy lines were very close together; only about 3/16th or so wide and the “thin lines” were not very thin at all. I’m asking because 1st the reticule is not what I thought it would be and 2nd I’m concerned about the reticule obscuring too much of the target.

The scope is going on my CZ 550 safari in 375, and will be used mainly as a DGR. Looking threw the scope through trees and heavy cover I do like the fact that the lines do not disappear as they do on some scopes, and to that end I feel the reticule will be great for fast target acquisition, in low light conditions. Whoever will this “thickness” of the fine lines reduce overall accuracy? Did Leupold change the reticule? Am I concerned about nothing?

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Re: Question about the Leupold VX-III Heavy Duplex [Re: Hauptjäger]
      #17639 - 06/08/04 05:09 PM

Nope! that is how they are, and they are fantastic for DG, low light and fast picking out the vitals in a hurry. Great minds think alike as thats what I have on my Sako .375 I will admit though, it makes it a little bit tougher to pick off those prairie dogs at 600yds.450Dakota

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Re: Question about the Leupold VX-III Heavy Duplex [Re: Hauptjäger]
      #17667 - 07/08/04 09:42 AM

Yeah, I would rather have a reticle that is a bit on the thick side than one that is too thin, especially for DG.
About 20 years ago I bought a like new 2-7 Leup really cheap because it had the tiny floating dot reticle which as you would know is useless for hunting.
I immediatly sent the scope off to the states to have a different reticle fitted.
I'd always used the standard duplex type but because I now had a choice I decided to have the CPC type reticle fitted.
Big mistake!
I found that shooting in thick scrub, especially in low light and on running shots, I could not pick up the cross in the center of the CPC reticle anywhere near as well as the duplex type.


Actually I'm trying to locate one of the first release Leupold 1.75-6 scopes for one of my doubles.
The one I want is the short tube version, not the later E model, as it just happens to suit the ring location on that particular rifle.
Anyone know where I can buy one?

The heavy crosshair is not ideal for precision shooting at long range but is often preferable for many other hunting situations.

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Re: Question about the Leupold VX-III Heavy Duplex [Re: Hauptjäger]
      #17691 - 08/08/04 08:36 AM

Hauptjager
I have 3 Leupold scopes with the heavy duplex. A 1.5x5 on my 375 Blaser Tracker bbl, a 1.75x6 on my wifes 308 Rem Mod 7, and a 2.5x8 on my 9,3x74R double. As you can see I like the heavy reticle very much for hunting big game. I have takes a coyote at 271 yards with the 9,3. I have not found the thick reticle any hinderence for long range shooting of big game. I had a 2.5x8 with a standard duplex on the 9,3 at first, I much prefer the heavy duplex for big game. The standard duplex was mounted on a 223 Blaser bbl.

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Re: Question about the Leupold VX-III Heavy Duplex [Re: NE450No2]
      #17695 - 08/08/04 11:58 AM

Thanks to all for the info. I just needed to hear that I got the right scope before I put it on the CZ. I feel much better about the scope now.

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Re: Question about the Leupold VX-III Heavy Duplex [Re: 4seventy]
      #17701 - 08/08/04 06:58 PM

Hey Dude, I have one of the shorty 1.75x6 w/the heavy duplex, as new. I do not see any marks on it.

It's for sale!

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Re: Question about the Leupold VX-III Heavy Duplex [Re: Will]
      #17707 - 08/08/04 09:05 PM

Will, I've sent you an email.

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Re: Question about the Leupold VX-III Heavy Duplex [Re: 4seventy]
      #18535 - 28/08/04 06:44 AM

I see absolutly no advantage to a heavy cross hair in a DGR, they simply cover up too much stuff IMO...The std. duplex is the best reticle every made and will work under any conditions...the rest is hype..

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Re: Question about the Leupold VX-III Heavy Duplex [Re: atkinson6]
      #18586 - 29/08/04 07:26 AM

I don't agree with hype. I have several with the HD duplex and have a number of Zeiss with the hvy. reticule. Lots easier for me to pick up and esp. in low light situations.
Anything you PERCEIVE that works well for you should be used even if in fact it works no better.


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Re: Question about the Leupold VX-III Heavy Duplex [Re: Hauptjäger]
      #18601 - 29/08/04 05:38 PM

All the dangerous game I have shot with a scope I have shot with the VariX in 1.75-5 with the heavy duplex, and has worked just fine. I've been burned by the thin crosshairs disappearing for the last time.

And because I cannot keep my mouth shut, it aggravates me no end when some people claim that they want a "dangerous game" scope but are worried about the heavy duplex covering up too much of the target.

Dangerous game is shot at relatively close range, or should be, so what is the point of thin crosshairs? One does not need absolute accuracy in a dangerous game rifle, and if the crosshairs are covering up so much of the game that it isn't accurate you are too freaking far away!

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Re: Question about the Leupold VX-III Heavy Duplex [Re: Will]
      #18656 - 30/08/04 02:38 PM

good point. I shot the 375 today with the scope in question and I found no falt with it. Yes you cover of your previous shot (hole) however I dont plan on needing sub MOA on a DGR. I no longer have any question I made the right choise.

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Re: Question about the Leupold VX-III Heavy Duplex [Re: Hauptjäger]
      #18688 - 31/08/04 07:16 AM

Will,
Horse hockey, I have shot some dangerous game at extended ranges and I have never had the standard cross hairs "fade out" in my hunting career...and I still think heavy cross hairs are hype however I sure don't mind you using them are getting perturbed, I know you'll get over it.

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