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CZ_hunter
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375 H&H with 350 gr bullets
      #234563 - 23/08/13 05:02 AM

As the 375 caliber became the most popular in Africa I would like to know how many of you have ever tried the 350 grain bullets which I still consider reasonable particularly for 375 H&H (neck long enough especially in Flanged version).
I would estimate to get 2400 fps with rimless version and ca 2300 fps with rimmed version.

e.g. the 350 grain Woodleigh RNSF would be perfect for eland, giraffe etc.
e.g. the 350 grain Woodleigh PPSF could be fine for buffalo

Does anyone can confirm their increased penetration over the 300 grainers?

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Re: 375 H&H with 350 gr bullets [Re: CZ_hunter]
      #234564 - 23/08/13 05:38 AM

CZ

They were designed for Buffalo.

You might want to send Woodleigh an email.

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Re: 375 H&H with 350 gr bullets [Re: 500Nitro]
      #234576 - 23/08/13 11:12 AM

What was the reasoning behind the need for a 350 gr SP compared to the existing and well established 300 gr?

Is there a FMJ 350 gr Woodleigh projectile?

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Re: 375 H&H with 350 gr bullets [Re: NitroX]
      #234577 - 23/08/13 05:12 PM

Careful with use in doubles, especially older ones, Hollands reported them keyholing. Norma used to load theor PH line with the 350 and then after other reports have now gone back to the trusted 300 grainers, best, Mike

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Re: 375 H&H with 350 gr bullets [Re: Mike_Bailey]
      #234581 - 23/08/13 06:13 PM


Quote:

Is there a FMJ 350 gr Woodleigh projectile?

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The Woodleigh's 2013 catalogue lists the 350 gr FMJ bullet in two versions.



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Careful with use in doubles, especially older ones, Hollands reported them keyholing. Norma used to load theor PH line with the 350 and then after other reports have now gone back to the trusted 300 grainers, best, Mike




Yes, the wrong twist rate could be the problem as the older double rifle barrels were standardized for the 300 grainers.
However in new rifles (custom made) it should not be an issue.

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Re: 375 H&H with 350 gr bullets [Re: CZ_hunter]
      #234768 - 27/08/13 08:51 AM

In my opinion...

If you want to go more than 300gr, you should really make the jump to a .40 calibre.

.416, .404, .400, etc. With 400 or 410 grains, it is a proven killer at any velocity from 2100fps +.

But, if you can't or don't want to upgrade, and you are going to shoot big game; an extra 50gr couldn't hurt.


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Re: 375 H&H with 350 gr bullets [Re: Wes350]
      #240716 - 16/01/14 11:54 AM

I had the Barnes 350 Grain Solids and Softpoints. The will only stabilisize with a short twist. Penetration on buffalo was plenty enough. Most 375 H&H rifles have the short twist, 375 Ruger rifles have a long twist.

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Re: 375 H&H with 350 gr bullets [Re: moorjaeger]
      #240721 - 16/01/14 12:57 PM

Both the Ruger and the H&H have the same 1-12" rate of rifling twist.
I have used the Woodliegh 350's in a H&H, WBY and small Steyr. From 2200 to 2350fps. Where they shine (if anywhere) is in the 378 at 2700fps.
I "think" the 350/.375's out penetrate the .40cal's, but then again I have not been much of a .40 caliber fan, deciding that the .375 is a fine hunter's choice and if I am looking for a fight I will start with a 458Lott and go up from there as terrain would dictate.

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Re: 375 H&H with 350 gr bullets [Re: Caprivi]
      #240727 - 16/01/14 02:31 PM

The .375H&H built it's reputation on high speed (2,600fps) 270gr. soft points for plains game, and on the 300's softs and solids (2,400fps) for dangerous game.

The 9.3x62 (according to John Taylor) built it's African plains and dangerous game reputation on 286gr. soft and solids at a muzzle velocity of 2,175fps. In the 1920's, he noted this speed was increased to it's current level of approximately 2,340fps for the 286gr., which he stated was not necessary - that the old ammo killed ALL of the animals just fine at the initial speed. (incidentally, in a 9.3x57- either M96 or m98, the original, wonderful 9.3x62 ballistics can be exceeded)

The .333 Jeffery, with 300gr. at 2,150fps also impressed John Taylor greatly.

I'm not professing to knowing anything about hunting in Africa, but, question, did the game become tougher? I do think the dangerous animals have become somewhat smaller (might be immaterial, though) as far as Trophy size is concerned.

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Re: 375 H&H with 350 gr bullets [Re: DarylS]
      #241113 - 24/01/14 08:36 PM

I think a 378 Weatherby (dont hate me!), built relatively heavy for caliber, but still under a .45/47/50 caliber in weight, loaded with the 350 grainers at...i dont know, whatever the H&H does with 300gr's would be quite the rifle. Build it open sited with a nice classic stock. One day! We'll see.

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Re: 375 H&H with 350 gr bullets [Re: Ash]
      #241129 - 25/01/14 04:06 AM

The Barnes originals in 350 gr. that I played with in my ZKK 602 - produced some 2,420fps, just as Elmer said they would, using IMR4350 powder. I played with them many years ago when living in Smithers - & I recall they had the .049" jackets, not the .032".
I can't recall ever shooting anything with them other than a couple coyotes & paper targets. They grouped just under 2" for me.

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Re: 375 H&H with 350 gr bullets [Re: DarylS]
      #241148 - 25/01/14 01:23 PM

I don't hate you Ash, thou it is rather of fashion to hate all things Weatherby. I have used them all over the years and this first 378 for me is rather plain, not for this crowd.


As to the 350's and velocity, the H&H will give them useful 250+yd hit capable speed and again "seem" to hit harder and penetrate better than like designed 300's. I just like the thought of those giants when in the Bush close country. In the 378 there is the ability to higher velocity or lower pressure. Pushed to 2700+ and with a tough soft, I am expecting a rather nasty wound channel. I hope so as standing at the butt end is rather nasty as well in mine.

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Re: 375 H&H with 350 gr bullets [Re: Caprivi]
      #241180 - 26/01/14 04:55 AM

I might add here, that I shortened a bunch of .223 cases - spent primers still in them, annealed them to the base, filled them with lead, rounded the noses in a round nose Lyman top punch" and shot them in my first .376/06IMP.

They'd group into 1 1/2" at 100 meters, a bit better than the 350gr. Barnes heavy jackets. These home made bullets weighed 340gr.. With a pure lead core the expansion was quite lovely in wood, but with a WW core and non-annealed case, they'd penetrate almost like FMJ's - albeit with about 1" cavitation (permanent cavity) in the Doug Fir rail ties shot length wise.

Similar 'hard' .458 bullets made with .250 Savage and .303 brass made 1 1/2" cavitation holes in the same test material.

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Re: 375 H&H with 350 gr bullets [Re: DarylS]
      #242217 - 11/02/14 03:05 PM

I was thinking of trying some 350's myself. Will a 1:12 twist stabilize them? Has anyone here used them on buffalo? If so, do they seem to really hit harder or penetrate any better than a 300 grain?

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