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Bushy
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Scope opinion?
#50353 - 20/02/06 10:18 AM

I am trying to pick out a scope for my winchester .375 safari classic. I am really looking at two scopes. A Leupold 1.5-5X20, or the Swarovski 1.25-4x24. I like the field of view of the Swarovski, over 30' more, but the Leupold has 4.4" of eye relief compared to 3.1" on the Swarovski. I will be hunting plains game and buffalo with it. I would really like to hear from those who have used either or both of them. Is the Swarovski worth the extra money if this is your choice. Also, any problems mounting either of these scopes on the long action winchester? Thanks! P.S. No one in town has either of these in stock, so I can't put my hands on them.

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JPK
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Re: Scope opinion? [Re: Bushy]
#50355 - 20/02/06 11:04 AM

Bushy,

My 375 H&H has the 1.5x5 Leupold in Talley QD mounts. Its a Dakota and their is no issue with mounting for me.

I used this rifle and scope in Zim in Oct and loved the combo. I used the 375 as my all rounder and as back up for a heavy rifle and found the combo near perfect.

However, if you plan on leopard or lion hunt I think its beyond its capabilities in very low light.

So if you are not leopard or lion hunting it gets a great recomendation from me. If you might do either in the future then you might want to think about the Swarovski 1.5x6x42 or something like it.

JPK

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André
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Re: Scope opinion? [Re: JPK]
#50385 - 20/02/06 08:23 PM

I have 2 Swaro 1,25-4x24 which I mainly use for drive hunting and am very pleased with them.

FN-Browning o/u in 9,3x74R + 1,25-4x24 PV (non-illuminated battue reticle)

Blaser 9,3x62 + 1,25-4x24 PVI-2 (digital illuminated n° 4 reticle). BTW, this one is nice for low light conditions

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500Nitro
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Re: Scope opinion? [Re: Bushy]
#50386 - 20/02/06 09:25 PM

Bushy

The Leupold 1.5-5X20 is a superb DG Scope, especially if you
may have to shoot up close an fast. 5 Power is just enough to take
longer shots with.

Eye relief is important, not so much when you are shooting deliberately
when you you are snap shooting - the last thing you need is getting wacked
on the eyebrow 2nd day in Afica which will then make you extra cautious
of shooting the gun and maybe cause a flich.

3 inches of eye relief is not much if you stock crawl by 1 inch !!!

I use / have used Leupold 1.5-5X20 and seen the oher but not used it.

500 Nitro

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DarylS
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Re: Scope opinion? [Re: Bushy]
#50409 - 21/02/06 03:20 AM

I personally prefer a straight 2X or 2-1/2X on large bore kickers. The scope should be mounted ahead far enough to cause you to reach. Then - practise mounting and snap shooting at close targets. A straight 2X gives plenty of magnification for large game out to normal ranges. Mounted like this, the view is always wide open, sharp and clear on the Leupold 2X. As well, it never comes even remotely close to the 'brow'.
: I firmly believe a variable shouldn't be higher than 4X or 5X.
: If you get a variable, check it for accuracy at ALL power settings. I had a couple Redfields and one Leuy that weren't consistant in bullet impacts through the power range, so switched to fixed power for .375 and above. The .375 has no difficulty keeping in less than an inch with the 2X at 100yds off the bags, yet offhand, the 8 inch plate at 220yards is a generally 3 out of 4 proposition.
: Practise!

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SAHUNT
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Re: Scope opinion? [Re: Bushy]
#50421 - 21/02/06 04:47 AM

Bushy,
Go for the Leupold, you will appreciate the longer eye relief.

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Edited by SAHUNT (21/02/06 04:49 AM)

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SuperX
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Re: Scope opinion? [Re: Bushy]
#50423 - 21/02/06 04:51 AM

".....I like the field of view of the Swarovski, over 30' more, but the Leupold has 4.4" of eye relief compared to 3.1" on the Swarovski. I will be hunting plains game and buffalo with it....."

Well that's the trade off.... as one goes up, the other goes down.

For the 375, I'd say the 2-7 Leupold would be a fine choice (especially if you plan on using the 375 as your single, all-round, rifle). I've been told the VX-2 is the strongest variable available?, and for serious rifles, I much prefer the Leupold "long eye relief" configuration (vs. Zeiss, Swar, etc).

FYI, I went with the following:
458 Win Mag; 1-4 Matte Leupold VX-2
338 Win Mag; 2-7 Matte Leupold VX-2
300 Win Mag; 3-9 Matte Leupold VX-2
Spare/in rings; 2-7 Matte Leupold VX-2 (fine for all 3 cals... at 2x for the 458)

All rifles are (std length) pre-64 70's and I've fitted all so there is 100% scope interchangeability (all use Talley lever rings)

Edited by SuperX (21/02/06 10:11 AM)

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mickey
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Re: Scope opinion? [Re: SuperX]
#50453 - 21/02/06 01:51 PM

I have a Leupold 1 3/4x6 LE on one 375. A 1x4 S&B on another.

I like the Leupy best.

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MopaneMike
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Re: Scope opinion? [Re: mickey]
#50464 - 21/02/06 02:56 PM

I concur, the 1 3/4 X6 with heavy cross hairs is awesome.. Also The new leo 2X7 is a super scope in my book.I Had Premier Reticle put in custom cross hairs.. We were easily picking out the waterbuck bulls at night when we could barely see them with the naked eye.. And to think it's one of their more budget priced scopes..

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Bushy
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Re: Scope opinion? [Re: Bushy]
#50467 - 21/02/06 03:55 PM

Thank you all for your input. I went ahead and ordered a Leupold 1.5-5x20. For the money that I saved buying this over a Swarovski, I can buy a backup scope also!

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